(04-19-2024 08:39 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(04-19-2024 02:44 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(04-18-2024 10:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Just a note: The Sun Belt has asked JMU and ODU to hold off on permitting this until there is much more clarity on the consequences of such a decision. Technically SBC Bylaws forbid the practice, but it appears the league is asking nicely.

If it’s a “law” that’s adopted by Virginia there will be no choice regarding JMU and ODU complying with the change. SBC bylaws can ask nicely all they want.

The law doesn't say you MUST, it basically makes it permissible for you to do so. However that law directly runs afoul of NCAA rules, and everyone knows Virginia did it to test the NCAA

Let UV and VTU take that risk until more info comes out.

It's interesting that the SB apparently pre-emptively prohibited this when it apparently wasn't a thing that schools could do. Or are their states where schools can already do this, theoretically? In any event, you are correct that the new VA law doesn't require it and if the SB bylaws prohibit it, then JMU and ODU are bound by the SB bylaws IMO.

However, state legislatures are huge copycats and I can guarantee that a bunch of other states are already planning their own version of this law.

(04-19-2024 09:53 AM)94computerguy Wrote:  

(04-19-2024 09:46 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  Haha ole Virginia Tech University - I'm just being a pedant here but they're technically Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University

Y'ever notice that in most states that used to allow slavery, (aside from FL and NC) the XX-state is an HBCU? VA State, SC State, TN State, AR State, MD State, DE State, and so on. Their "land grant school that's not the flagship university" is something else, like Clemson, Auburn, or Va Tech. (which is probably part of why "and State University" is in VT's name).

However, Penn, Ohio, Michigan, Colorado are just a few states that come to mind where XX state is just "the other big public university".

I'm not sure what the backstory is there, but it can't be just a coincidence.

Well, Arkansas State, Texas State, Mississippi State, LSU and Florida State don't really fall into that category.

My understanding is that most "State" universities (MSU, CSU) were the state's main agricultural school, hence why so many rebranded from the A&M designation when they began really expanding degree offerings mid-20th century.

(04-19-2024 09:53 AM)94computerguy Wrote:  

(04-19-2024 09:46 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  Haha ole Virginia Tech University - I'm just being a pedant here but they're technically Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University

Y'ever notice that in most states that used to allow slavery, (aside from FL and NC) the XX-state is an HBCU? VA State, SC State, TN State, AR State, MD State, DE State, and so on. Their "land grant school that's not the flagship university" is something else, like Clemson, Auburn, or Va Tech. (which is probably part of why "and State University" is in VT's name).

However, Penn, Ohio, Michigan, Colorado are just a few states that come to mind where XX state is just "the other big public university".

I'm not sure what the backstory is there, but it can't be just a coincidence.

AR State is not an HBCU, MD State is not an HBCU or even a school for that matter.

(04-19-2024 10:11 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(04-19-2024 09:53 AM)94computerguy Wrote:  

(04-19-2024 09:46 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  Haha ole Virginia Tech University - I'm just being a pedant here but they're technically Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University

Y'ever notice that in most states that used to allow slavery, (aside from FL and NC) the XX-state is an HBCU? VA State, SC State, TN State, AR State, MD State, DE State, and so on. Their "land grant school that's not the flagship university" is something else, like Clemson, Auburn, or Va Tech. (which is probably part of why "and State University" is in VT's name).

However, Penn, Ohio, Michigan, Colorado are just a few states that come to mind where XX state is just "the other big public university".

I'm not sure what the backstory is there, but it can't be just a coincidence.

AR State is not an HBCU, MD State is not an HBCU or even a school for that matter.

I mean technically - https://marylandstateuniversity.us/

Although that does have a big South Harmon Institute of Technology vibe to it.

(04-19-2024 10:14 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(04-19-2024 10:11 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(04-19-2024 09:53 AM)94computerguy Wrote:  

(04-19-2024 09:46 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  Haha ole Virginia Tech University - I'm just being a pedant here but they're technically Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University

Y'ever notice that in most states that used to allow slavery, (aside from FL and NC) the XX-state is an HBCU? VA State, SC State, TN State, AR State, MD State, DE State, and so on. Their "land grant school that's not the flagship university" is something else, like Clemson, Auburn, or Va Tech. (which is probably part of why "and State University" is in VT's name).

However, Penn, Ohio, Michigan, Colorado are just a few states that come to mind where XX state is just "the other big public university".

I'm not sure what the backstory is there, but it can't be just a coincidence.

AR State is not an HBCU, MD State is not an HBCU or even a school for that matter.

I mean technically - https://marylandstateuniversity.us/

Although that does have a big South Harmon Institute of Technology vibe to it.

LOL! The professional headshots of the "Hon'ble Chancellor" and "Board Of Directors" look like posts on a social media site.

(04-19-2024 10:11 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(04-19-2024 09:53 AM)94computerguy Wrote:  

(04-19-2024 09:46 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  Haha ole Virginia Tech University - I'm just being a pedant here but they're technically Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University

Y'ever notice that in most states that used to allow slavery, (aside from FL and NC) the XX-state is an HBCU? VA State, SC State, TN State, AR State, MD State, DE State, and so on. Their "land grant school that's not the flagship university" is something else, like Clemson, Auburn, or Va Tech. (which is probably part of why "and State University" is in VT's name).

However, Penn, Ohio, Michigan, Colorado are just a few states that come to mind where XX state is just "the other big public university".

I'm not sure what the backstory is there, but it can't be just a coincidence.

AR State is not an HBCU, MD State is not an HBCU or even a school for that matter.

Fair enough. However, per wikipedia:
Alabama State
Delaware State
Kentucky State
South Carolina State
Tennessee State
Virginia State
Texas Southern was "Texas State University For Negroes"
West Vrignia State

So there's still quite a correlation.

Wonder if any NIL agreements have been for multiple years? Seems like that could be something that "might" help us smaller schools. You can get NIL from JMU at 25k a year if you lock in for 3 years. So if a player vastly improves we could enforce the multi-year agreement. Of course JMU will have a buyout option.

Saw the NIL law was fully enacted today. Whit Babcock went on record saying VT is open for business, so we'll see how that goes for them.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...r-opt-outs